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Introduction to the History of Modern Zionism

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THROUGH recent events Zionism has been moved into the foreground of publicity. The movement, which seeks as its ultimate aim the reorganization of Palestine as a Jewish State, is of interest not only to Jews, and that irrespective of their attitude towards religion, -- but also to non-Jews. For Zionism involves the future of Palestine; and Palestine is a country equally sacred to the followers of three great religions, -- to Christians and Mohammedans, as well as to Jews -- who together constitute about one-half of the entire population of the world.

There are three main aspects of Zionism which need to be sharply differentiated from each other, though in the movement itself they tend to coalesce -- Religious, Economic, and Political Zionism. Religious Zionism is an integral part of the orthodox Jewish faith. The hope of a return of the Jews to Palestine rests for the orthodox believer upon his belief in the fulfillment of divine prophecies, which assert that Jehovah will gather His chosen people from the ends of the earth, restore the Temple service as of old (including such a crude survival of primitive worship as animal sacrifices) and re-establish both the ancient Jewish priesthood and the Jewish Kingdom. This belief in the restoration of the Jews is closely bound up with another doctrine, that Jehovah will at the proper time, send a Messiah to redeem His people and to bring all mankind to recognize the sway of the one God, who chose Israel to preach His doctrine to the world. Furthermore, these two doctrines, the restoration of the Jews to Palestine, and the belief in a Messiah, are corollaries following from a third doctrine, that the Jews are the chosen people of God. Orthodox Judaism may thus be said to rest upon four pillars -- the belief in one God, the belief that the Jews are His people, belief in the Messiah as God's messenger to be sent to redeem His people and all mankind, and belief in the return of the Jews to their native land. It will be apparent that the Zionism of orthodox Jews assumes an indissoluble bond between religion and nationality. According to this faith the Jews are bound by a double bond but the national bond, although tacitly assumed, has a merely theoretical or academic force until the time for the restoration arrives. Orthodox Zionism, furthermore, stands on the platform that the fulfillment of divine prophecy is not to be brought about through ordinary human agencies, -- not even through a Peace Conference, -- but by God Himself in His own time and in His own way. Religious Zionism is, therefore, a doctrine hardly capable of being translated into an active political movement. As a matter of fact, only a small proportion of genuinely orthodox Jews are actively engaged in the modern Zionistic movement, though the orthodox longing for the return to Zion is, as we shall see, one of the chief roots of the modern movement itself.

We may designate as economic Zionism the effort which has to a large degree inspired the entire Zionistic movement, to ameliorate the pitiable condition of Jews living in such countries as Russia and Roumania, without rights of citizenship and subject to all manner of oppression, alternating with persecution and officially sanctioned pogroms. Huddled together within the restricted area known as the "Pale" and there living without civic rights, they were at all times at the mercy of a sinister and despotic government which, when it suited its purpose inflamed the people to brutal attacks on the lives and property of defenseless men, women and children. The world has been horrified and scandalized at various times during the past three decades by reports of persecution, murder and pillage in the Jewish Pale. The hopelessness of the outlook for internal improvement of the position of the Jews in these countries, to which we may add Poland where the situation was likewise disheartening, naturally suggested as the only remedial measure a plan of securing a home elsewhere. Even though it was realized that wholesale emigration was not possible, yet some measure of relief would be afforded by having an outlet for at least a portion of the congested Jewish population in Russian Poland and Roumania, forming together one-half of the entire number of Jews in the world. This congestion, more particularly in Russia where the Jews were huddled together within the Pale of settlement, strictly defined by the Government, emphasized at once the seriousness and the hopelessness of the problem unless unforeseen changes should take place. It was therefore natural, and certainly not accidental, that the modern Zionistic movement took its rise in Russia, and at first purely as an ameliorative program. When in 1881 it became evident, through the promulgation of the cruel "May Laws," imposing still further restrictions on the Jewish Pale, that the Russian Government instead of alleviating the situation was determined to crush all hopes of any improvement a physician, Dr. Leo Pinsker, living in Odessa, voiced his project of what he called "Self-Emancipation" for the Jews. By this he meant an effort on the part of Jews themselves to secure a new home in some soil where they might live safely and develop freely without the pressure of the unequal struggle imposed upon them through restrictive governmental measures. The project was one born of despair and which was not unnatural in view of an anti-Semitic outbreak in Germany and Austria, which threatened the position and rights of the Jews even in these politically more advanced countries. Pinsker himself was quite indifferent to Palestine as a land of refuge, but as a consequence of the stimulus exerted by his proposed solution of what had become known as the "Jewish Question," organizations were formed throughout Russia, known as "Lovers of Zion," to encourage the colonization of Jews in the Holy Land. These organizations spread to Germany and Austria under the influence of the reaction upon the Jews in those countries of the wave of anti-Semitic prejudice, while sympathy for their oppressed brethren in Eastern lands led to branches being formed in Western Europe, and also in the United States.

With this aspect of Zionism, which merely involves the colonization of Jews in a land which had both historical and sacred associations, Jews everywhere sympathized, even though it was felt that Palestine afforded an outlet for only a small portion of the superfluous population. North and South America received by far the bulk of the Russian Jews who after 1881 began to emigrate en masse from the land of oppression, and during the past three and a half decades over two million Jews have wended their way westward and not eastward. Events have, therefore, moved in a direction quite contrary to the hopes of the "Lovers of Zion," but the movement for Palestinian colonization was not abandoned, and Jewish colonies on a small scale began to be formed in Palestine. The effort made a strong though largely sentimental appeal to Jews as an ameliorative measure of peculiar interest, because of the possibility that it afforded of improving the economic conditions in Palestine itself through the influx of energetic and enthusiastic groups, even if these were not very large ones. Had Zionism confined itself to the purely economic aspect of providing an outlet, even though a limited one, for the overflow of the Jewish population in Russia, there would never have arisen any differences of opinion as to the beneficial character of a movement aiming to establish Jewish colonies organized on the basis of autonomous government in a country that would benefit thereby. The sentimental background to such colonies would have given the movement additional force without introducing any disturbing factor.

The first Jewish colony was established in Palestine in 1870 by the Alliance Israelite Universelle, the first Zionist colony in 1882. Others soon followed. The project was largely aided by Baron Edmond de Rothschild, of Paris, but it is interesting to note that those colonies flourished best which were formed and maintained by the enthusiasm and devotion of the colonists themselves. At present there are some forty Jewish colonies in various parts of Palestine, with a total population of somewhat over 10,000. Small as this number is in comparison with the general population of Palestine and Syria, the Jewish colonies have nevertheless left their mark on the country. Modern methods of agriculture have been introduced and an agricultural experiment station has been established at Athlit; and with that keen intellectual ambition which is a pronounced trait among Jews everywhere, schools have sprung up in connection with the colonies. Encouragement has also been given by the side of agriculture, to the cultivation of the technical arts. The most notable achievement in this respect is the Bezalel School at Jerusalem, in which throughout the year over four hundred persons are engaged in learning and practicing industrial occupations, weaving, carpentry, copper, brass, ivory and silver work, lace making, lithography and the like, while more recently a Jewish Technical Institute has been established on the basis of a considerable endowment at Haifa.

An entirely new direction, however, was given to the Zionistic movement through the introduction of the political factor. This was the work of the late D.r Theodor Herzl, who may be regarded as the founder of political Zionism, which, quite distinct from the religious and economic phases, has as its ultimate aim the conversion of Palestine into a Jewish State. In 1896 Herzl launched the new movemenFTjy publishing his monograph on the "Jewish State," in which as the solution of the Jewish Question, the organization of the Jews as a nationalistic unit was proposed, with a view of creating a political center for the reestablishment of a Jewish Nation. Herzl reached this rather remarkable conclusion as the result of his interpretation of the cause of the difficulties which the Jews encountered even in those countries in which they had been accorded political rights. Convinced that the existence of a "Jewish Question" in the enlightened nineteenth century was due in its last analysis to the fact that the Jews actually formed a separate nationality, his thought was centered on the creation of a visible focus for this Jewish nationality. Through the reestablishment of the Jews as a nation, the bond which in Herzl's view was the real tie binding them together would not only be strengthened, but would become an active force through diplomatic pressure and other means exerted by a real Jewish State, in securing protection for Jews everywhere. The plan of a Jewish State, it will be seen, was in one respect merely the extension of Pinsker's project of self-emancipation, but Herzl sought to attain the aim in view through laying the chief emphasis on what he considered the nationalistic bond uniting Jews wherever they may be found. Herzl in thus striking the national note gave ah entirely new turn to the Zionistic movement, and since the first Zionistic Congress held at Basel in 1897, through Herzl's energetic efforts, the political note has been the dominant one in the Zionistic movement, attaching to itself both the religious and the economic aspects in such a way as to secure a far more general cooperation for the ultimate aim of political Zionism. But on the other hand, political Zionism has brought to a practical issue questions which hitherto had been of more academic and theoretical interest, whether the Jews actually were a nation, and if so, whether it was desirable for them to reorganize themselves in a political sense after having ceased to be a nation from the political point of view for over 2000 years.

Such, then, are the three aspects of Zionism which need to be borne in mind in order to reach an understanding of the present situation.

Religious Zionism should demand the respect of those who cannot accept the doctrine on which it rests. Being purely an ideal, it is an impressive dream -- and also innocuous. Economic Zionism, involving the further development of Jewish colonization in Palestine, is a movement that merits encouragement and aid in every possible way, not only because it offers free and happy development for Jews attracted for one reason or the other to the Holy Land, but also because it directly conduces to the improvement of economic conditions in Palestine itself. Political Zionism, however, is an entirely different matter and must be viewed from a totally different angle. It involves not only difficulties, as the Zionists themselves recognize, but also dangers which in the opinion of non-Zionists are sufficiently serious to condemn the entire movement as unfortunate and as threatening the position of Jews throughout the world. Before taking up certain fundamental objections to political Zionism, it is necessary for us to trace the three aspects of Zionism which thus coalesce in the most recent political phase to their roots.

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Source: "Zionism and the Future of Palestine" (1919) by Morris Jastrow, Chapter 1.

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Reply#1 - Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:39 PM EDT
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From the Preface:

Up to the present the Zionists have done most of the writing and all of the shouting. They have succeeded in moving the political aspects of Zionism so far into the foreground as to overshadow the older religious Zionism which forms an integral doctrine of orthodox Judaism, and entirely to obscure the original aspect of the modern movement which started out as a purely ameliorative measure to secure, through colonization in Palestine, "self-emancipation" for Jews living under distressing conditions in Russia. Political Zionism holds the center of the stage. The Zionists have also succeeded in creating the impression on the outside world that Political Zionism represents a national uprising among the Jews in general, a recrudescence of national feelings that have long lain dormant. The claim is made that Zionism is part of the movement for the reassertion of nationalities that forms such a striking feature of the political history of Europe in the nineteenth century, and that is now showing itself again at the end of the war in the rise of the suppressed nationalities of Poland, Bohemia, Armenia and Arabia. This impression is entirely erroneous and misleading. As a matter of fact, of the Jews settled in Western European countries and in this country where Jews enjoy precisely the same political and other rights as their fellow-citizens, only a very small percentage of those who have lived long enough in these countries to have become assimilated to the political and social conditions, approve of political Zionism. The larger proportion of such Jews are probably entirely indifferent to the question.

Not content with this political Zionists now claim that the issue has been won that opposition to it has become useless, that those who continue to combat it are blind to the rapid movement of events through which as one of the leaders puts it. "Zionism has been transferred from the field of national aspirations to the realm of political fact." The slogan has been given out to drown all opposition by a mighty chorus of "victory" shouts. And all this before the Peace Conference at Paris has made any declaration on the subject!

The basis of this assurance appears to be largely the statement made by the Right Honorable Arthur J. Balfour, Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs, under date of November 2nd, 1917, that the British government "view with favor the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object." The statement means much or little according as one gauges what Mr Balfour had in mind in making it It will be noted that Mr Balfour avoids the term "Jewish State," and speaks only of a "national homeland." To a "homeland" for such Jews as have gone to Palestine or who propose to settle there, there is, of course, no objection; and I emphasize throughout this volume the desirability of encouraging the colonization movement in every possible way as much for the sake of Palestine as for that of the Jews, since the country can only benefit by the presence of a thrifty and industrious population devoted to the improvement of the land and to promoting its industrial and commercial activity. It all depends, therefore, on what is meant by "national." Mr Balfour, it may be admitted, would not have used the term had he not accepted the main contention of political Zionists that the Jews were a separate nation or nationality. Now Mr. Balfour, so far as known, has made no special study of either Jewish history or of the Jewish religion or of the psychology of the Jewish people. His type of mind is, as is well known, essentially skeptical, and he would be apt to view such a question as Zionism from the point of view of diplomatic policy. At all events he would probably be the last one to claim any weight attaching to his opinion of the crucial question, whether the Jews are a nation or merely a religious body that once was a nation. The ultimate source, therefore, of the introduction of the term "national" into Mr. Balfour's declaration is the platform of the political Zionists. If, therefore, it can be shown, as I propose to do in this volume, that this term cannot properly be applied to the Jews, the declaration would merely have the force attaching to any statement coming from so distinguished a personage as Mr. Balfour. Granting the full weight of the statement as it stands, it does not follow that Mr Balfour favors the organization of the Jews, viewed as a national unit, into a political unit in Palestine to be placed in control of that country. He is silent on this essential point -- naturally so, for Mr. Balfour is, above all, a statesman, and when he wrote this declaration, the issue of the war was still uncertain, and even he was not in a position to decide what should become of Palestine upon the termination of the great conflict. He could not at the time have envisaged more than the recognition of the Jews to the right of self-government in their colonies. We are now in a position, however, to appeal from Mr. Balfour of 1917 to Mr. Balfour of 1918, at a time when the war was approaching its close. Judging from his later utterance, it would seem that Mr. Balfour has been impressed by the opposition which, since his first declaration, Zionism had encountered in many circles. The emphasis is placed by him on Palestine as a home for "homeless" Jews. The "national homeland" is not stressed, and it would appear that Mr. Balfour now views Zionism largely, if not purely, as an ameliorative measure for a portion of the Jewish people. He expresses his belief that those Jews who are led to go to Palestine will be happier in a "civil community which completely harmonizes with their historical and religious sentiments: a community bound to the land it inhabits by something deeper even than custom." To this every one interested in the welfare of such Jews as wish to settle in Palestine can cheerfully assent, but this is not political Zionism. Apparently, the political Zionists themselves have come to a realization of the vagueness of the former declaration, for a demand is being made for a more precise statement as to the intentions of the British Government towards Palestine.

The fact is that a declaration such as Mr. Balfour made before the termination of the conflict should only have been taken at the time as an indication of general sympathy with the ameliorative aspects of the Zionistic movement, and not as an endorsement of the political aims of the Zionists to reorganize Palestine as a distinctively Jewish State. Similarly, the endorsement of Mr. Balfour's sentiments by the French and Italian governments, couched in very general terms, and the statement issued last September by President Wilson ought not to be regarded as more than a general expression of sympathy with the humanitarian phases of the Zionistic movement.

Events that have transpired since the termination of the war justify the suspicion --and indeed more than suspicion, -- that the statesmen who are to grapple with the problem of the reorganization of Palestine will feel their way cautiously. Even before the termination of the war protests from Christians and Mohammedans were raised against the political program of Zionism. Still more significant is the attitude of representative men among English, French and American Jews. In England a "League of British Jews" was formed led by such men as Claude G. Montefiore and Israel Abrahams, whose authoritative position as students of Jewish history and Jewish religion lends great weight to their utterances. In this country, a statement signed by over three hundred representative American Jews from all parts of the country, protesting against the program of the political Zionists has been forwarded to the Peace Conference. The opposition also shows itself in England and in this country in warnings raised by such men as Sir George Adam Smith, Herbert Adams Gibbons, the Honorable Henry Morgenthau, Ex-Ambassador of the United States to Turkey, and others, who speak from a direct knowledge of the East and of Eastern conditions.

In the spring of 1918 the French government sent a commission of experts to Palestine for the purpose of investigating the economic conditions and the attitude of the natives towards political Zionism. Among the members of the commission was M. Sylvain Levi, the distinguished Orientalist, who in the same year was sent by the French government to this country in order to ascertain the views of Zionists, and Non-Zionists as well, towards the proposed reorganization of the Jewish State. The result of M. Levi's investigations in Palestine and in this country is to be seen in the statement that he made before the Peace Conference on March 1st which was decidedly unfavorable to political Zionism. Strong pressure was brought to bear upon Professor Levi to refrain from exposing the weaknesses of political Zionism, but he felt it his duty on the basis of his investigations, to do so, with the result of bringing down on him the wrath of the English Zionists, who apparently believe in the foolish policy of forcible suppression of opposition to their movement. A delegation of English Zionists was heard by the Peace Conference just preceding M. Sylvain Levi, and Dr. Weizmann in his account to the Zionist Conference of the result of the hearing was frank enough to state that he declined to shake hands with M. Levi, and accused him of "betraying" the cause. This exhibition of bad manners as well as of bad temper does not indicate that the Zionists are as confident of their ultimate success as their public utterances would suggest. A further indication that the issue has not yet been won is the manner in which the political Zionists have shifted their position of late. They now place the organization of the Jewish State in the distant future, possibly in order to prepare their followers for the disappointment that will ensue in case the Peace Conference should decide not to propose steps for the organization of such a State. Some of them have even gone so far as to suggest the abandonment of the designation "Jewish State" and now speak of a "Commonwealth of Palestine." They thereby either give the whole case away or raise the suspicion of proposing a verbal camouflage to conceal the real aim that they have in mind. It is probably a safe guess that the leaders have been given an intimation that the Peace Conference will not go beyond the expression of general sympathy with Jewish colonization in Palestine and the promise to secure full rights to Jews settled there, with perhaps local autonomy for the colonies.

But irrespective of what the Peace Conference may or may not do, it must be clear to all who view the situation calmly that the Palestinian problem as the other questions connected with the Near East, will occupy the thought of the world for some time to come. Meanwhile, it is of importance to understand the nature of these problems. Zionism is one of them (though only one) and the wide interest that it has aroused, which is not limited to those directly concerned, is sufficient justification for making the attempt, as I do in this volume, to consider the various aspects and the roots of the movement, its relation to the general Eastern Question and to conditions in Palestine, and also what appear to me to be the fallacies of political Zionism from the point of view of a student of history. I am further led to make this endeavor by requests that have reached me from various sides to give a full presentation of the reasons why many who have made a study of the subject cannot accept the program of the political Zionists.

In stressing the historical point of view, as I do throughout the volume, I trust that even those who may not be disposed to agree with me will recognize that I do not look upon the historical treatment of a subject as a cold-blooded anatomical dissection. The historian must aim to clothe the skeleton of his facts with flesh and sinews, aye, even to supply it with "teeth." In tracing Zionism to its roots as in following the trend of Jewish history including a survey of the Reform movement in Judaism, and in setting forth the present-day conditions in Palestine, it has been my aim not only to be fair, but also to reveal my sympathies for those larger aspects of Jewish history which account for the peculiar interest attaching to an analysis of the status of the Jews, and more particularly to their strange survival, despite all vicissitudes. For the Jews furnish a single and singular illustration of a people commingling with all the nations of the world without losing their identity -- like the Gulf Stream that can be distinguished from the great body of the surrounding ocean through which it flows.

I cannot refrain from touching here upon a weakness of the Zionistic movement which I have directly encountered in the preparation of this volume, and which consists in the vagueness of the definitions of terms such as "Jewish Nation," "Jewish culture," "Jewish spirit," used by Zionists in describing the movement. This is in part due to the fact that many of those who make public addresses and write on Zionism, including some of the leaders of the movement in this country, have not made any special study of the history of the Jews or of their literature. Without such study one is apt to fall into all kinds of strange vagaries. The tension of the situation is somewhat relieved upon finding distinguished jurists extolling the glories of Judaism, of which they know little either in theory or practice, and expounding the beauties of the Hebrew language of which they cannot read the characters. The task of the student of the subject would be much simplified if Zionists could agree upon some clear and definite statement of the fundamentals that might be labelled as "genuine," with the additional warning, "beware of imitations." As it is, every Zionist feels at liberty to manufacture his own brand of Zionism. This is particularly the case when it comes to a definition of a "Jewish State." In the hope of overcoming opposition to their political program some Zionists are so vague in their use of the term "nation" and in their view of the "Jewish State," that define both terms out of existence. I have tried to make allowances for what appear to be merely subtle arguments in the presentation of the subject and have taken as my point of departure that a "Jewish State" means what the term used implies to the person of average intellect; and I have tried, following in the wake of Lord Bryce, to distinguish between a "nation" and a "nationality."

Lastly, I would call attention to the fact that it is only for the sake of convenience that I have treated the subject in a series of eight sections. The volume should be read as a whole, and I trust that those who do read it will reserve their judgment until they have followed the presentation of the subject to the end.

A word of grateful acknowledgment is due, as in the case of all my books, to my wife, my severest and my most sympathetic critic, who has, as usual, read through the manuscript and aided in revising the proofs, with the result of making valuable suggestions and of detecting slips and errors.

It is a pleasure and privilege to be permitted to write on the dedication page the name of a valued friend whose career, devoted to the service of humanity, has exerted a deep influence on my own thought and whose companionship has been a source of real inspiration these many years.

Philadelphia, May, 1919.

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#1.1 - Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:56 PM EDT
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Excellent Neron. But I wonder. How about another article that explains the history of Palestine? This article is very good at showing the Zionists movement towards a "whole" state. How did they fracture in the first place?

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Reply#2 - Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:06 PM EDT
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I am planning to read "Syria and the Holy Land" and "The Historical Geography of the Holy Land", both of which were authored by George Adam Smith. These books were published in the early half of the nineteenth century around the time of, or shortly after, WWI.

Material printed prior to the creation of the modern Jewish State in 1948 is less biased, in my opinion.

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#2.1 - Fri Aug 22, 2008 9:53 PM EDT
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While you articles are long they are well worth the time thank you Neron Kesar

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#2.2 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:38 PM EDT
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Thank you.

You can read the entire text of "Zionism and the Future of Palestine" (1919) by Morris Jastrow,

(courtesy of Google Books) at:

http://books.google.com/books?id=j4w2AAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=intitle:zionism+inauthor:jastrow&lr=&as_brr=0

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#2.3 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 12:50 PM EDT
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I have found it useful to go directly to the root of a matter in order to discover and address the genuine issues of a problem. Many problems are unsolvable because the parties debate layer after layer of symptoms.

If they do so innocently, their debating of symptoms reflects a failure to grasp the root issues. However, other debaters who are neither innocent nor honest, will emphasize these first, second, or third generation symptoms in order to distract attention away from what they know to be true; i.e., that there is a fatal weakness in their root position.

We should never fear the truth. All outcomes must begin with the truth.

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Reply#3 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:35 PM EDT
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My purpose in studying Zionism is to formulate a value system that may aid in the resolution of present-day conflicts in the Middle East. To this end, I have written:

"Neo-Zionism and Jewish National Ideals",

http://amberneve.newsvine.com/_news/2008/07/13/1662195-neo-zionism-and-jewish-national-ideals

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Reply#4 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 5:16 PM EDT
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Neron,

Not sure where you live, but I hope you will participate in a new group that Rebelgirl and I have opened up called 8 things about where u live. It's intended to be educational in nature, letting people know things about areas that they may have preconceived notions about, so, in the spirit,

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Reply#5 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:50 PM EDT
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Done:

"Walla Walla, Washington",

http://amberneve.newsvine.com/_news/2008/08/23/1778483-walla-walla-washington

But you will have to clip this to your group.

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#5.1 - Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:03 PM EDT
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Thanks and clipped!

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#5.2 - Sun Aug 24, 2008 12:06 AM EDT
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Hey, Neron. I used to live in Kingston.

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#5.3 - Sun Aug 24, 2008 1:29 AM EDT
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I had to look that up. That's the other side of the state. I lived in Seattle from 2000-2001.

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#5.4 - Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:19 AM EDT
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